Conversational banking, done Ryt
Conversational banking, done Ryt Ryt Bank is attempting to change a fundamental assumption in digital banking so that customers would not have to speak a computer’s language to get things done. Its Chief Product Officer, Foong Chee Mun, outlines how Ryt Bank came to this conclusion as well as how it is helping customers complete day-to-day tasks with the world’s first AI-powered digital bank. During Enterprise IT News’ interview with Chee Mun, he introduced himself as being an engineer, who has “…been dealing with AI for a bit of time. “I have close to 20 years experience working on it before it was glamorous, and it was a bit painful at the time.” In his opinion, the introduction of large language models (LLM) aka ChatGPT two to three years ago, was a huge game changer. “For the first time in the history of computing, the computer will be able to do something for you (based on) natural human language processing.” In fact, three months after the launch of ChatGPT, Chee Mun and his team found themselves thinking about how to build and reimagine a bank in the age of generative AI. He described a shift from the von Neumann computing paradigm to one that now has to consider LLMs because customers can now ‘instruct’ a bank to carry out transactions using everyday language in Malay, English, Chinese, and more. “So, what we had to do was make sure our core banking system is AI-agent friendly, which means being able to understand natural language and execute transactions based on it.” This meant having to invent a lot of ‘concepts’, including how to build a layer of security in a way that is unprecedented. Unprecedented security architecture How do you guard against malicious intent? Mun Foong talked about the human language being ambiguous because a single word could have any number of meanings. For example, malicious users are known to craft ‘jailbreak’ prompts for ChatGPT, so that it ignores its own safety rules and produces disallowed content. The CPO explained, “So, it all comes down to a new type of system design where you convert something probabilistic into something that is deterministic.” Ryt Bank’s user interface is a multi-agent framework architecture that understands and carries out the intent of the bank’s users who use conversational language. Chee Mun also spoke of the first AI agent as being a guard rail agent that ensures customers have the right intent before their instructions are ‘handed over’ to the rest in the process. Chee Mun’s team made it a point to bake compliance into the product and its processes as much as possible. For example how to conduct AML checks and maintain privacy. This approach streamlines operations, reduces risk and compliance workload, while supporting ongoing regulatory collaboration for privacy and data protection. Sovereign and compliant Ryt Bank’s team is intentionally local. This is unlike other digital banks that often require 100 or 200 engineers, or outsourcing of key work to other countries like India or Vietnam. In contrast, Ryt Bank was built by a much smaller in-house team of nearly 25 engineers. Chee Mun highlighted that the product and engineering teams are “entirely Malaysians,” a decision he said enabled close collaboration with regulators early on. “We worked with [Bank Negara] from day one on the design of the product,” Chee Mun said, explaining how Ryt Bank proactively shared their step-by-step plans for privacy, data protection, product compliance, and inclusion with Bank Negara. Having the engineering, design, and product teams based in the same office in Malaysia also has its benefits as there is more integrated compliance, direct communication with regulators, and a sense of national ownership. Greater participation Conversational interfaces have the potential to unlock accessibility for people who struggle with traditional banking processes. Chee Mun gave the example of an older relative who “is on Facebook eight hours a day” yet cannot transfer money on conventional banking apps because their interfaces are too unfriendly or rigid. New, conversational AI-driven banking can do a better job of enabling these segments of the population to be guided through the online banking process by ‘someone’ familiar and supportive. Speaking with Chee Mun, Ryt Bank’s ambition for conversational banking to serve as a foundation for broader public services integration, shines through. It’s not just about banking activities. There is very real potential for seamless access to a range of government services. He suggested activities like renewing a passport or booking a clinic appointment could become options in the app interface backed by secure payment and compliant government processes. “If we can create agents that help you to understand and participate in all the government processes and benefits, I think it’s going to go a long way for the economy. So how do we do it using AI? I think it is possible.”








